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Then on 11-03-99 around 4:40p.m. Janey left a message at work for me to call
her.
I didn’t get the message early enough to call her back that day so on
11-04-99 at 10:36 a.m. I returned her call but I ended up leaving a message for
Janey to call me.
After four days had passed and Janey had not returned my call, I called
again on 11-08-99 around 4:33 p.m. and left another message for Janey to call
me.
The following day ,11-09-99 around 2:24 , I was leaving work to go home for
lunch when Janey called me on my cell phone. I explained that I was going to
lunch so it was a perfect time to talk to her. I ended up talking to her the
entire time I was driving home and ended up finishing the conversation in my
apartment complex parking lot. As a matter of fact, our conversation lasted for
about a half an hour.
Janey attempted to forewardly start the conversation by telling me again
that there was no law saying the IRS had to compensate me when they’re wrong. I
abruptly stopped her and asked if there was a law stating that the IRS didn’t
have to compensate me when they were wrong. She hesitated for a moment and said
that there was not. I then explained to her that we needed to work from that
perspective because there was no way in hell that I was going to allow the IRS
to trash my life for 15 years and not be held accountable.
I said listen Janey, I do not want to come across as being rude or angry
with you, but every time you call me and tell me that IRS says they don’t have
to pay for this nightmare, you piss me off. You sound like an intelligent
person until you say things like that. I said, Janey you and I both know that
in the real world, the one I live and work in, if General Motors did the same
thing the IRS did to me, when my attorneys got finished with them my name would
be on their buildings.
But Janey, you say that because it’s the IRS, they’re not accountable
"by law" when they’re wrong and that is totally unacceptable. I am
not going to allow the IRS or anyone else do this to me and just walk away. I
explained to her that I after what I went through, I would never trust any
branch of the government again, especially the IRS. I told her that I already
knew that the government and IRS would not be fair or honest about why they did
it to me or in attempting to compensate me for the hell they put me through and
that’s why I took 6 ½ years of my life to write the book because I plan on
continuing this fight, but we’re going to do it out in the open for everyone to
see. I told her that my plans are to legally shut the IRS down with a mail in
boycott. I was going to try and get enough people to send in letters to the
point that the IRS is so flooded with mail that they’re unable do anything to
anyone again. They need to be put out of business.
She told me that I should sue the IRS in Federal Court. I asked her if she
knew the type of money it takes to hire an attorney for an extended legal
battle with the IRS. It’s already taken me 15 years to get this far because the
IRS made sure I would not have that type of money, and even if I was able to
find an attorney, the IRS could drag this out for 15 to 20 years. Hell, I may
be dead by that time.
I then explained to her that from my past experiences with the legal system,
suing the IRS in Federal court was like having the trial at my house with one
of my kids as the judge. I told her that as far as I was concerned, Federal
Judges are employees of the Federal Government just like the IRS is. The only
way I felt that I would ever receive a fair trial, was if I made sure
everything was out in the open so they were less likely to rig the trial like
they did in Rossford, Perrysburg and Lucas County.
After getting nowhere with her, I finally attempted to use the last bit of
logic I could muster up before telling her to just kiss my ass and hanging up.
I said, Janey I would like to ask you this question face to face but I’ll
settle for an answer over the phone. Now, Janey are you going to tell me that
if anyone, including the Federal Government and the IRS wrongly came in and
destroyed your family, took your daughter away from you through a divorce, then
destroyed two businesses and your life for 15 years and then told you that
they’re not accountable for what they did to you, that you would accept that?
There was quite a long pause before Janey finally answered no, she would not
accept that either.
I then politely asked her to please stop calling me, I told her that I was
going to shortly come out with the book, put together an Internet site and take
my fight to the real world. I then closed our conversation by telling her to
have a nice day.
Well, about ten minutes later, Janey called me back and said that she agreed
that the IRS should have to compensate me for what they did, and that she
didn’t think that the IRS was looking at this in the proper manner. She asked
me for the name and phone number of the Senate Finance Committee investigator.
She said that she wanted to talk with that person so she could give them her
recommendations.
On one hand I was somewhat elated to have her call me back and make this
statement. On the other hand, I was still ticked off from our last
conversation. I don’t want to seem ungrateful, but after you argue with someone
from the IRS for months and you’re finally able to get them to agree with you,
you remember from past experience that this means nothing. I’ve been through it
repeatedly with different people from the IRS and it always ends up
accomplishing little to nothing. Their word means absolutely nothing.
I gave Janey Mr. Strouse’s name and said that I would have to look up his
phone number but that I would call her back shortly with it.
Around 3:25 p.m. I called Janey back and gave her Mr. Strouse’s phone
number.
On 11-19-99 around 1:17 p.m. I called and asked Iris to have Mr. Struose
call me. She said that she would get a message to him and have him call me
back.
Almost a week went by and I hadn’t heard from Mr. Strouse so l called him on
11-23-99 around 4:29 p.m. I called and left another message for Mr. Strouse to
call me.
After waiting for almost another week and not having him return my call , I
called again on 11-29-99 around 9:48 a.m. I called and left another message for
Mr. Strouse to call me.
Several hours later Iris Lehrich called me back to tell me that Mr. Strouse
was released and that there were not going to be any additional Senate hearings
into IRS abuse. She then told me that if I was not content with what the IRS
was willing to pay me that I could sue them. She then told me that there was
nothing they could do for me anyhow because all of my records had been
destroyed by the IRS.
She then explained to me that there was no law stating that the IRS had to
compensate me for the losses they caused, regardless if they were wrong .
I then told her how I felt about that rule and simply stated that I would
fight them by coming out with the book. I asked Iris if she would please send
back the manuscript I sent to her. She asked me if I would mind if she copied
the manuscript before she sent it back. I said that yes I would mind, I did not
want her copying the manuscript, just please send it back to me.
On 12-06-99 I received the manuscript back from Iris Lehrich and that was
it.
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