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At 2:11 I called Jerry Hill and told him about my conversation with Doug Cline and his invitation and that, if I did accept, I would only do so if he would attend the meeting with me. Before Jerry answered me, I wanted him to know what he was getting himself into. I told him that I was finished playing games with the IRS and that I wasn’t pulling any punches with them when I went to this meeting. I explained to Jerry what Doug had told me about the $8000 so I told Jerry that I was expecting them to try and screw me out of whatever they could and that I wasn’t going to stand for that. I told him that I was going to stand my ground and that I wanted the IRS to compensate me for all my losses and I wasn’t settling for anything less. Jerry said that he had no problem with that so he said that we should accept the invitation and see what the IRS would have to say about compensating me for the hell they put me through.

At 2:19 I called and left a message at Doug Cline’s office to call me. As usual, he didn’t return my call so at 3:35 I left another message saying that Jerry Hill and I would accept his invitation.

Once again Doug didn’t return my call so again on 03-30-99 at 11:07 I called him. When he came to the phone, I told him to set up the appointment to meet in Toledo on April 10 at 10:00 a.m. I asked Doug if the media was there and asked me any questions regarding what I thought about the new and friendlier IRS, would there be any repercussions or retaliation from the IRS against me because neither he nor the IRS would like what I had to say. With great hesitation he said that the IRS would not retaliate if I said something they didn’t like.

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Doug ended the conversation by saying once again that I should have the first group of refund checks before I attended the meeting. He also asked me to fax him a copy of the 941 form that the IRS sent me last week.

On 04-01-99 at 4:30 I faxed the 941 sheets to Doug Cline as he asked.

Then on 04-02-99 at 3:25 Doug called me, I guess to remind me that I should receive a check for $20,000 plus before our Saturday morning meeting. I told Doug that was great but I was more concerned with when the IRS was going to pay me the entire amount ,not just an installment payment. I was also concerned with how the IRS was going to come to a fair amount for a settlement. Doug said that we would discuss that issue at our meeting.

On 04-10-99 Jerry Hill and I met with Doug Cline at the Toledo office of the IRS..Doug also had Mary Coleman, Assistant Chief, Examination Division, Ohio District attend the meeting. The first thing I said was that I had not received a refund check from the IRS yet. He apologized and said that I should receive it soon.

Doug then asked me to explain to him and Mary Coleman what happen and why I thought it happened, so I did. When I started to explain my experiences with Ron Zilinski and Lenna Kirby Mary Coleman asked me to stop, she wanted to bring in the head of collections for Ohio and have him listen in. When Mary returned she introduced Johnny R. Powell, Chief, Collection Division. I then explained, in detail, my entire experience with the local IRS. I looked Mr. Johnny R. Powell right in his eyes and told him flat out that this onslaught by the IRS was nothing more than a political favor. Without looking me in the face, which none of the three would, he said that he didn’t think that was possible. I then replied that if the IRS had no idea why they did this to me and I did, then I must be right and that anyone with a half a brain would agree. I looked him in the face again and asked him, was he looking to cover this up or was he honestly going to look into why they really did this to me. He smiled politely and said that he would look into it.

We then discussed the missing payments and how they were incorrectly applying part of the money they took from me. I questioned how they were going to pay me if they couldn’t find the records that they already told me were destroyed. I asked where they were getting the records, were they making them up as they go along. I also asked them if they were going to continue to apply the money they took from me to back taxes that I did not owe. They never gave me a straight answer to any of my questions, they said that they would look into it. It was like I was talking to three robots. I asked Johnny R. Powell why he didn’t just go to Lenna Kirby and ask her where the money went that she seized from my bank account and what she did with the $8700 check. He told me that Lenna Kirby was no longer with the IRS and they did not know where to find her. He then asked me if I thought Lenna Kirby stole the money. I told him how in the hell would I know what she did with the money, I just knew that she hit my bank account twice for around $7000 and that I gave her a cashiers check for $8700 in front of another IRS agent

I then purposely asked Doug Cline in front of everyone, especially Jerry Hill, if the IRS still intended on paying me within the one percent of what they charged me in interest as he had told me earlier. He repeated that the IRS was going to pay at the same interest rate they charged me, which was over 100 percent per year. Doug then made the statement that Barbara Woods had made an error in sending me an incorrect printout of payments and asked if he could have it back. Before I answered I thought to myself, do I look stupid to these IRS clones? I had multiple answers going through my mind, none of which I would put on paper so I just simply smiled and said, sure you can have it because I’ve already made about 5,000 copies. All of a sudden, they didn’t need it anymore!

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After going over what I thought the IRS owed for the hell they put my family and me through, which included the return of the patent and the 17 years that went along with it, I told them that I expected someone from the IRS to go to jail for doing this because they could never give me my family back and someone was going to pay dearly for that.

This turned out to be about a three hour meeting that went nowhere. As far as I was concerned, it was a waste of time. No one answered anything. They just talked in circles. Regardless of how hard I pressed them for answers, the only thing they would say was that they would look into it. I ended the meeting by telling all three of them that I was not counting on the IRS to be fair about this. From what I could see, the new and friendlier IRS was telling me that not only was the destruction of my family and two businesses worth nothing but that they couldn’t find over half of the money they took from me, and if they did find the money they would apply it to taxes I didn’t owe. They were basically going to pay me whatever they wanted, whenever they wanted, so what the hell’s new about that? As far as I could see, not a damn thing had changed..

On 04-13-99 around 9:31 I called Doug Cline to ask if he had any idea when I would receive the first group of refund checks. I had to leave another message because he was unavailable. That afternoon when I went home for lunch, there were four checks for a total of $17,312 from the IRS in the mail.

Three days later, on 04-16-99 I received another check from the IRS for $3381.40.

On 04-20-99 at around 11:45 I called Doug Cline to tell him that I had received five checks. I wanted to ask him what they decided, if anything, from our meeting. I also wanted to reiterate that the IRS owed me a hell of a lot more than what they sent me, but as usual I had to talk to the tape.

Then at 11:48 I left a message for Johnny Powell, the head of collection in Cincinnati, to call me.

Around 3:55 Bill Holmes from the IRS called and told me that Johnny Powell was not in the office but that he would return my call on Friday the 23rd.. He said he wanted to ask me a couple of questions. He asked me when the IRS took Tamara’s tax refund. He also asked me when the IRS took my truck. He then asked me when I paid the IRS the $8700.00 and whom I gave it to. I told him that I gave it to Lenna Kirby and that there was another IRS agent with her, but I didn’t get his name. I then told him that Doug Cline said that Ron Zilinski had found $8000 of the money and that he was applying it to taxes I didn’t owe, so I called and asked him what his records showed. Remember, these are the records that don’t exist.

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